How I wrote ‘Blue World' with Mac Miller - Guy : Disclosure - Breakdown!

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우선, 네. 이 곡은 LA 캐피톨 레코드의 캐피톨 스튜디오 D룸에서 맥과 함께 썼어요. 위층 1층에 있는 곳이죠.

First of all, yeah, I just want to say, you know, this song I wrote with Mac in LA in Capitol Records, Capitol Studios, Studio D, which is on the first floor upstairs.

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맥을 처음 만난 날이었어요. 트위터로 조금 얘기하고 있었죠. 서로 메시지를 주고받으며 같이 뭔가 해보자고 했어요.

It's the first day that I'd ever met Mac. We'd been talking on Twitter a bit. We were messaging back and forward just saying like, yeah, we should do something, whatever.

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다음에 LA 오면 만나자고요. 2016년 일이었어요.

Next time I'm in LA, let's get together. This was in 2016.

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그리고 이 곡을 썼어요. 10월 말이나 초쯤이라고

And then we wrote this song, I'm going to say the end of October or the start

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생각해요. 2016년 11월쯤이었고

of november 2016 pretty sure and it was

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정말 멋진 하루였어요. 스튜디오에서 만났는데

just such a great day we met at the studio and there was

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어색한 것도 전혀 없었어요. 혼자 와서 직접 운전하고

you know no awkwardness or anything he came on his own drove himself

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주차한 뒤 들어왔죠. 정말 다정한 사람이었어요.

there parked up rolled in such a sweet guy man he was

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정말 예의 바르고 재미있는 사람이었어요.

he was so polite and fun and

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무엇보다 작업하러 온 거였어요. 그는

he mostly though he wanted to work he was there because he

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곡을 하나 만들자고 했죠. 빠르게 작업하고 쓰는 걸 좋아했던 것 같아요. 제가 비트를 들려주자 “야, 좋아”라고 했어요. 그리고 두 개를 더 들려줬더니

was like we want to get a tune going here i think he liked working fast he liked writing fast i think i played him this beat first and he was like yo yes and then i played him two more

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첫 번째 것만으로 충분하다고 했어요.

and he was like first one you didn't even need

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나머지 두 개는 들려줄 필요도 없었다는 식이었죠. 결정은 꽤 빨랐어요.

to play me the other two or something like that it was a pretty quick decision as

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제가 틀기 시작하자 방 안을 서성거리며 담배를 말았어요.

soon as i started playing it he was pacing around the room rolling a cigarette

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그러면서 아이디어를 떠올릴 준비를 했죠.

or whatever and getting ready to start thinking of ideas

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그리고 작업하면서 흥얼거리듯 랩을 했던 것 같아요. 그러고는, 음, 네.

and wrapping he's kind of scatting i think as he went along and then um yeah

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우린 발코니로 나갔어요. 그는 담배를 피웠고, 우린 짧게 또

we went out the balcony he had a cigarette we had another kind of quick

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얘기하며 서로를 조금 알아갔어요. 그러고는 바로 작업에 들어갔죠. 그는 곡을 쓰러 왔고 준비가 돼 있었어요. 비트가 계속 반복되게 뒀어요. 그때는 곡의 구조를 딱히 정해두지 않았거든요.

chat got to know each other a little bit and then honestly it was like straight into work he was there to write he was good to go yeah i kind of just let the beat keep looping i I didn't have much of a structure of it at that point.

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그냥 드롭, 롤, 빌드업으로 이어지는 곡이었던 것 같아요. 그리고 샘플 얘기도 많이 했어요. 그가 샘플에 정말 감탄했거든요.

I think it was just kind of drop, roll, build up thing. But the main thing we did as well was talk about the sample because he was really blown away by the sample.

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아마 여러분도 맥의 퍼포먼스 말고도 이 비트를 좋아하실 것 같아요. 흥미로운 비트니까요.

As I think probably you guys are a big fan of this beat, aside from Mac's performance, because it is an interesting beat.

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제 곡 중에서도 실험적인 편이라고 할 수 있어요. 정말 자랑스러워요. 그렇게 말해둘게요.

I'd say it's one of my more experimental. I'm really proud of it. Let's put it that way.

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제가 좋아하는 여러 요소가 담겨 있고, 어떻게 표현되고 완성됐는지도 정말 마음에 들어요.

It draws on a lot of things that I love, and I'm really happy with how it was presented and how it turned out.

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그리고 단순함이 정말 자랑스러워요. 다섯 가지 정도밖에 안 돼요.

And I'm really proud of the simplicity of it. It's like five things, you know, or if that.

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드럼, 베이스, 신스 몇 개, 샘플이 전부지만 서로 조화를 이루죠.

drums bass a couple of synths and a sample but all working in harmony together

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그리고 네, 정말… 정말 그저

and yeah it was really it was such it was just

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재밌는 곡이었어요. 그를 만나기 전날 만들었던 것 같아요. 그래서 만들었죠

a fun one i think i made it the day before i saw him so i made

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그냥 혼자 만들었어요. 누구를 위한 곡인지 생각도 안 하고

it on my own with you know no intention of who it was going

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누구를 위한 곡일지요. 그 주에 만나던 사람한테 그냥 들려주려고 했어요

to be for you know i'll just play it to whoever i was seeing that week

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음, 그리고 다음은 맥이었죠

um and then you know mac was was up next so

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네, 오래 기다릴 필요도 없었어요. 모든 게 딱 맞아떨어진 것 같았죠

yeah didn't need to wait long so it was it just all felt like it fell into place

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이야기는 제가 LA의 레코드 가게에 간 데서 시작해요. 멜로즈와 페어팩스에 있는 레코드 컬렉터라는 곳이죠

so the story starts with i i went to a record store in la called the record the record collector it's on melrose and fairfax

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흥미로운 레코드 가게예요. 들어가면 가게 절반은

it's a it's an interesting record shop you go in and half the shop

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재즈고 나머지 절반은 클래식이에요. 물리적으로

is jazz and half the shop is classical physically

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가운데를 기준으로 나뉘어 있죠. 거기 있는 사람들은 꽤 나이가 많고 꽤

divided down the middle and the guys in there are pretty old and pretty

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별나요. 젊은 사람들이 들어오면 사진만 찍으러 왔다고 생각해서 아주 의심하는 것 같아요

weird i think they're very suspicious when young people come in because they think you're there

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그냥 사진 찍으러 온 거라고요. 멜로즈 근처에 있어요

just for a photo opportunity it's really near like on melrose

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관광객들이 가는 곳이죠. 핑크색 벽도 있고 다들 사진을 찍어요

is where the tourists go there's a lot of there's the pink wall is there and everyone takes photos

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그 빌어먹을 핑크색 벽 앞에서요. 벽에 천사 날개도 있어서 사람들이

in front of this fucking pink wall there's some angel wings on a wall as well people

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거기서 사진을 찍어요. 이제는 재즈와 클래식 음악에 조예가 있는 척하려고 레코드 벽 앞에서 사진만 찍으러 가게에 오는 사람들도 생긴 것 같아요

take pictures there and i think now he's getting people coming into his record store to just take pictures in front of walls of records to look like you're

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그런 거죠. 잘은 모르겠어요. 그래서 제가 들어갔더니

cultured on jazz and classical music i don't know so i walk in

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그 사람이 무슨 일인가 하는 눈으로 저를 보더라고요. 저는 가게를 둘러봤어요

and he's like looking at me a bit like what's going on and so i was looking around

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좀 기웃거리면서요. 길을 잃은 것 같기도 했죠. 전부 30년대, 40년대

a bit snooping around a bit lost it was all very much like 30s 40s

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50년대, 60년대 재즈였고, 클래식 음반도 있었어요. 별로 살펴보진

50s 60s jazz and then yeah classical stuff i didn't really look

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않았어요. 그러자 그가 도와드릴까요 하길래, 솔직히 말해야겠다 싶었죠

at and uh he was like can i help you and then i was like i'll just be straight up

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그 사람한테요. 뭔가 찾는 게 있다고 하면 그 사람도

with this guy i'm looking for something specific and then maybe he'll think that

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제가 진짜 용건이 있어서 왔다고 생각할 테니까요. 포 프레시맨 음반 있냐고 물었더니 그가

i'm actually here for a reason i was like you got anything by the four freshmen he was like

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아, 포 프레시맨 좋아하세요? 하길래 네, 가진 건 거의 다 사고 싶다고 했어요. 한두 장쯤 있을 줄 알았는데, 그가 아래쪽으로 소리쳤어요

oh you like the four freshmen was like yeah yeah i want to buy like pretty much whatever you have thinking you might have one or two and then he shouts down

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계단 아래에 있는 동업자한테요. 그 사람도 똑같이

the stairs to this guy his partner who's down there equally

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늙은 사람이었고, 바지를 젖꼭지까지 끌어올려 입었어요. 어, 어

like old guy of his trousers pulled up to his nipples oh oh

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프레시맨 음반 가져와. 그가 뭐라고? 프레시맨 음반 가져와

get the freshman he's like what oh get the

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포 프레시먼, 난 ‘이게 뭐야?’ 싶었어. 정말 말도 안 되는

freshman i'm like what is happening here this is a crazy crazy

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폭풍이었지. 그래서 엘이 아래층으로 뛰어 내려가더니

crazy storm and so el runs off downstairs and

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한 30장쯤 되는 음반을 한 무더기 들고 올라왔어

he comes up with a stack of like maybe 30

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이만큼이나. 전부 포 프레시먼 음반이었지. 모르는 사람들을 위해 설명하자면, 포 프레시먼은 30~40년대에 활동한 재즈 아카펠라 그룹이야. 대학에서 만난 네 명이

records like this big all four freshmen stuff and for those who don't know yeah the four freshmen were um a 30s 40s jazz acapella singing group four guys who met in

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결성했어. 내가 알기로는 아카펠라에 고급 재즈 화성을 도입한 최초의 그룹이었지

college and um as far as i can tell they're pretty much the first acapella group who incorporated

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바버숍 콰르텟 같은 노래에 말이야

advanced jazz harmony into acapella barbacop

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이발소 4중창단처럼 노래하네. 내가 틀렸을 수도 있지만, 확실히 선구자들이야.

like barbershop quartet singing i could be wrong but they're definitely pioneers

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그 시절에 그들만큼 세련되게 한 사람은 찾기

uh i've struggled to find anyone as advanced as they

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힘들었어. 난 정말 팬이야. 브라이언 윌슨은

were doing it at that time and i'm just a big fan brian wilson

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비치 보이스의 브라이언 윌슨이 그들을 자신의 가장 큰 영향으로 꼽았어. 그 밖에도 정말 많은 음악가에게 영향을 줬지. 심지어 그들이

from the beach boys cites them as his biggest influence they influenced so many artists beyond that as well i mean you could even say they

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비틀스에게도 영향을 줬다고 할 수 있어. 포 프레시먼, 비치 보이스, 그리고 비틀스도 비치 보이스를 가장 큰 영감으로 꼽잖아. 그러니 그건 내게 정말 큰

influenced the Beatles really because four freshmen Beach Boys and then the Beatles always cite the Beach Boys as being their biggest inspiration as well so yeah that that was a big

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의미가 있었어. 그래서 그들의 곡 몇 개를 샘플링해 보고 싶었지

big deal to me so I wanted to just go and sample some of the some of their tunes

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전에 누가 했는지는 잘 몰랐지만

um I wasn't sure if it had been done or not before but I

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별로 신경 쓰지 않았어. 의미가 있는 거라면 뭐든 샘플링하니까

didn't really care you know I'll sample anything uh that has a meaning to

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나와 똑같은 방식으로 샘플링한 사람이 있을 가능성은 낮잖아. 그래도 온라인에서 찾아봤는데, 이미 한 게 그렇게

me you know it's pretty unlikely that you would sample something in the exact same way as someone else who's done it but you know I searched online and there wasn't there wasn't

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많지는 않았어. 혹시 있었다 해도 늘 생각했지

loads that had been done before and if there was i always thought that

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어쨌든 더 발전시킬 여지는 있다고. 그게

there was room for it to improve anyway that was

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내가 포 프레시먼을 알게 된 계기야. 완전히 빠져들었지. 다음 날 스튜디오에

my connection to the freshman i was obsessed yeah went to the studio the

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새 샘플을 잔뜩 들고 가서 이것저것 끌어다 놓기 시작했어

next day with all these fresh new samples and started dragging things in and um