Why Qualcomm is betting on AI data centers
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所以,克里斯蒂亞諾,你負責高通,你的技術為許多安卓手機提供動力,
So, Cristiano, you run Qualcomm, and your technology powers many Android phones,
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遇到了一些智能眼鏡、一堆即將推出的可穿戴設備,以及越來越多的汽車。我想要了解這一切。
met a smart glasses, a bunch of coming wearables, and a growing number of cars. And I want to get into all of that.
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但我想先從其他方面開始,你對美國和中國也有非常有趣的看法。
But I want to start with something else, which is you also have a very interesting view of the U.S. and China.
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高通在中國擁有非常強大的驍龍品牌。
Qualcomm has a very strong Snapdragon brand in China.
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我在這裡參加你們的峰會時其實學到了很多,驍龍在中國擁有狂熱的粉絲群。
That's something I've actually learned a lot being here at the summit that you guys are having, is just the rabid fan base for Snapdragon in China.
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我認為這為你提供了獨特的視角來看待這兩個市場。
And I think that gives you a unique window into the two markets.
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我想先從中國人對人工智慧的感受談起,與美國相比。
And I want to start with how people in China are feeling about AI relative to the United States.
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當你查看全球對人工智慧的情緒時,根據地理位置的不同,情緒非常不同。
The sentiment, when you look at the sentiment and how it pulls on AI around the world, it's very different based on geographies.
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你能否稍微對比一下這兩者?如果我進行一個
Maybe could you contrast the two a little bit? If I do a
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比較和對比,人工智慧在設備和消費者中的廣泛採用,我看到在中國發展得非常快。
compare and contrast, the broad adoption of AI into the devices and in consumers, I see that happening in China very, very fast.
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在美國,我看到企業對人工智慧的前沿模型的採用。這些話題主導了討論。
In the United States, I see the development of frontier models in enterprise adoption AI. Those are kind of dominating the conversation.
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這就是兩者之間的對話差異。當你和中國人談論人工智慧時,是否感覺他們想像的未來與美國人不同?
That's the difference in conversation between both. And when you talk to people in China about AI, does it feel like they're imagining maybe a different future than people in America?
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在美國,當你查看民調時,情緒非常負面。
The sentiment in America, when you look at the polling, it's incredibly negative.
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每一項新技術都會帶來不確定性,對吧?所以,這很有趣。
Look, every new technology has – it will bring uncertainty, right? So, you know, it's interesting.
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如果你回顧歷史,看到不同的技術轉型,一些擔憂。
You know, if you go back in time and you see different technology transitions, some of the concerns.
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顯然,根據我的觀點,在美國發生的事情是,人工智慧已成為多個行業的重要生產力工具。
Obviously, what happened in the United States, given my perspective, is AI has been an important productivity tool for a number of sectors.
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例如,像高通這樣的公司,今天在不同的對話中,我甚至被問到,你們做了很多事情。
For example, a company like Qualcomm, I was even asked today in a different conversation, said, well, you guys are doing a lot.
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你們正在轉型公司,同時做很多事情。你們如何能夠在平行進行這些事情的同時分配資本?
You're transforming the company. You're doing a lot of things in parallel. How can you allocate capital to do all of those things in parallel?
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如果你實際上查看,我們相對於運營費用的規模一直在擴大。
And if you actually look, we have been relatively expanding the company with kind of a flat scale of operating expenses.
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這其中很大一部分是利用人工智慧提高開發過程的生產力。
A great part of this is productivity gains using AI to the development process.
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所以你明顯看到人工智慧在生產力方面的這些方面,顯然也有擔憂,這會影響工作嗎?
So you have clearly those aspects of AI for productivity games, and they are obviously concerns about is that going to impact jobs?
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公司會利用自己的人工智慧,並且不需要那麼多的人力嗎?
Are companies going to leverage their own AI and they're not going to need as much manpower?
2:28
所以在這個對話中,這可能是普遍的。我不認為這是美國特有的。
So in that conversation, it's probably universal. I don't think that's unique to the United States.
2:34
你確實有關於數據中心的對話。數據中心是巨大的。你看看那些巨大的部署。
You do have this conversation about data centers. Data centers is massive. You look at those massive deployments.
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你需要越來越多的計算能力。我認為這是對計算需求的牆。
you need more and more compute. It's a wall, I think, of the demand for compute.
2:47
你顯然擔心這會不會增加我的電費?
And you obviously have concerns about, is this going to increase my electricity bill?
2:52
所以這些對話,我認為是自然的。後者,我在中國看不到。
So those conversations, I think, are natural. The latter, I don't see it in China.
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我覺得這更像是一種特徵,這是一種演變。
I see more of it's like a feature, it's an evolution.
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這兩個國家對此的看法有些不同。我認為,例如,中國一直專注於物理人工智慧和邊緣計算。
The two countries are looking at this a little bit different. I think, for example, China has been really focused on physical AI and everything on the edge.
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目前對中國的關注更大。
There's a bigger focus on China right now.
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但我相信一般來說,由於與人工智慧相關的不確定性,你會有很多問題。
But I believe in general, because of the uncertainty associated with AI, you're going to have a lot of questions.
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坦白說,我們正處於人工智慧的早期階段。早期,非常早期。我喜歡用這個比喻。
And to be frank, we're in the early days of AI. Early, very early. I like to do this metaphor.
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這幾乎就像在互聯網的早期,如果我必須說,好的,我們已經知道會發生什麼。
It's almost like in the early days of the internet, if I could have to say, okay, we already know what's going to happen.
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AltaVista 將贏得搜索,MapQuest 將贏得地圖,Orkut 將贏得社交媒體。不。
AltaVista is going to win the search, and MapQuest is going to win the map, and Orkut is going to win the social media. No.
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我認為我們仍然有很多事情需要在人工智慧上發生,這些問題中的一些將會得到解答。
I think we still have a lot of things that needs to happen on AI, and some of those questions will be answered.
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This episode is brought to you by Mercury, AI-native banking that's loved by more than 300,000 entrepreneurs, including me.
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Visit mercury.com to learn more. Mercury is a fintech, not a bank. Check the show notes for details.
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本集還由 Jira Byadlassian 贊助,這裡的團隊和代理可以獲得上下文、協調和控制,以推進工作。
This episode is also brought to you by Jira Byadlassian, where teams and agents get the context, coordination and control to move work forward.
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在 Jira.com 免費試用。那是 J.I.R.A.com。
Try it free at Jira dot com. That's J.I.R.A. dot com.
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還要感謝 Granola,這是一個為連續會議的人設計的人工智慧筆記本。它在你工作的每個地方都能運作,讓你專注於重要的事情。
Thanks also to Granola, the AI notepad for people in back to back meetings. It works everywhere you do and lets you focus on what matters.
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在 Granola.AI/sources 試用,並使用代碼 sources 獲得三個月的折扣。
Try it at Granola dot A.I. slash sources and use the code sources for three months off.
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目前在美國,很多人都在討論這種節奏的概念,調整人工智慧發展的前沿。
Right now in the U.S., a lot of people are talking about this idea of pacing, pacing the frontier of AI development.
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你會看到像 hugging face 的漏洞,模型變得更強大,網絡風險增加。
You're seeing things like the hugging face breach, the models becoming more capable, cyber risks increasing.
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我很好奇你對此的看法,因為你和公司都在華盛頓。
And I'm curious where you stand on this because you, the company and you, you've been in Washington.
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你顯然是在美國政策空間中的一個聲音。當你看到這場辯論時,你對此有什麼看法?
You're obviously a voice in the policy space in the U.S. on this. When you're seeing this debate, what do you make of it right now?
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所以我會提供我的意見,並且我會有兩個評論。我想首先,我會免費給你我的意見。
So I'll provide my opinion and I will, two comments. I think first, I'll give you my opinion for free.
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