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Google's AI Infrastructure Chief, Amin Vahdat, on the Physics & Economics of Frontier AI

0:00
在硬體方面,正如你所知,當你越專注於特定的工作負載時,它的靈活性就越低,硬體的速度和能效就會越高。
In hardware, again, as you know, there is this opportunity where the more you specialize to a particular workload, the less flexible it is, the faster, the more power efficient the hardware is going to be.
0:10
所以這是一門藝術,也是你設計的預測,以及這個工作負載的持續性。
So it is this art and it's this projection of what are you designing to and how persistent is that workload.
0:18
換句話說,如果它在一個月、兩個月或三個月後就會消失,即使在那三個月內它很大,你也只有一個非常狹窄的窗口來攔截。
In other words, if it's going to go away after a month or two months or three months, even if it's big for those three months, you got a really narrow window to intercept
0:27
所以它必須是某種耐用的,你必須能夠準確預測專注於它能獲得的收益。
So it has to be somewhat durable, and you have to be able to project exactly what win you can get for specializing to it.
0:52
非常高興歡迎阿敏·瓦達特來到節目中。阿敏,謝謝你今天的加入。能在這裡真的很令人興奮。我非常期待。
Thrilled to welcome Amin Vadat to the show. Amin, thank you for joining us for today. It's really exciting to be here. I'm really looking forward to it.
0:59
我對今天的主題非常興奮,因為我們正處於人類歷史上最大的資本支出擴張中。
I am very excited for today's topic because we are in the middle of the biggest CapEx buildout in human history.
1:06
你正處於其中。僅谷歌預計今年的資本支出將超過2000億美元,其中大部分將用於建設數據中心。
You are in the middle of it. Google alone is expected to spend more than $200 billion on CapEx this year, most of which is going into building data centers.
1:15
你是整個事件的中心。你在去年底被任命為谷歌的人工智慧基礎設施負責人。
You're at the center of it all. You were named the head of Google's AI infra at the end of last year.
1:22
所以你就是那位領導人類歷史上最資本密集的建設之一的努力的人。
So you are the man spearheading the efforts of one of the most capital intensive buildouts in human history.
1:28
因此,我今天真的很期待和你深入探討。這肯定是個重要的一年。
And so I am really excited to get into it with you today. It's a huge year for sure.
1:32
當然,在整個行業,包括谷歌,我真的認為我們從未見過這樣的情況,老實說。
Of course, across the industry, including at Google, really, I don't think we've ever seen anything like this, honestly.
1:38
當然在谷歌不是,但正如你所說,我認為在整個人類歷史中,這樣的擴張和轉型的速度,真的令人難以置信。
Certainly not at Google, but as you said, I think in the history of humanity in terms of the buildouts and the pace of transformation, really unbelievable.
1:47
在我們深入探討之前,也許可以給觀眾一個速成課程。
Before we get into it, maybe just crash course for the audience.
1:50
什麼是人工智慧數據中心,它與非人工智慧數據中心有什麼不同?
What is an AI data center and how is it different from a non-AI data center?
1:55
這是一個非常好的問題,因為人工智慧數據中心和非人工智慧數據中心實際上有很多相似之處,它們並不是根本不同。
It's a very good question in that AI data center and a non-AI data center do have a lot of similarities, actually, and they're not radically different.
2:03
我的意思是,它由混凝土、圍欄組成。它由電氣區、機械區、冷卻系統組成。
I mean, it consists of concrete, an enclosure. It consists of electrical yards, mechanical yards, cooling.
2:11
你有一排又一排的電力分配。那裡有大量的網絡基礎設施。
You have row after row of power being distributed. There's a huge amount of network infrastructure there.
2:18
換句話說,我們將大量計算機連接在一起。那裡有相當多的存儲基礎設施。
In other words, we connect large amounts of computes to one another. A fair amount of storage infrastructure goes in there.
2:25
我認為我們在人工智慧基礎設施中看到的最大區別是專業化。
I think that the big difference that we're seeing with AI infrastructure is specialization.
2:31
在過去,當我們建設數據中心時,這確實是一項20、25、30年的建設投資。
In the past, when we're building a data center, it really is a 20, 25, 30-year building investment.
2:38
而我們正在考慮在那20、25、30年期間它將如何演變。你可能會有伺服器進入其中。
And we're thinking about how it's going to be evolving over that 20, 25, 30-year period. You might have servers go into it.
2:45
你可能會有網絡存儲。你可能會有一些加速器、GPU、TPU,無論它們是什麼,都可能進入其中。
You might have networking storage. you might have some accelerators, GPUs, TPUs, whatever they might be going into it.
2:52
但這是一個25、30年的規劃視野。而硬體的壽命可能只有六年。
But it's a 25, 30-year planning horizon. And the lifetime of the hardware might be six years.
2:59
我們必須為這麼多代進行規劃。人工智慧數據中心往往會更具目的性。
So many generations that we have to plan for. An AI data center oftentimes is going to be more purpose-built.
3:07
換句話說,我們往往會與可能進入其中的硬體共同設計建築。
So in other words, we are oftentimes co-designing the building with the hardware that might go into it.
3:15
我們可能會說,實際上,我們不會在這棟建築中放很多儲存設備。為什麼?
we might be saying, you know what, actually, we're not going to put a lot of storage into this building. Why?
3:21
因為一個儲存架可能有10、20、30、40千瓦的功率。
Because a storage rack might have 10, 20, 30, 40 kilowatts of power.
3:25
你把它放在TP架或GP架旁邊,今天那裡的功率輕鬆就能達到幾百千瓦,甚至可能達到兆瓦。
You put that next to a TP rack or a GP rack that easily is hitting hundreds of kilowatts today, might hit megawatts.
3:35
人們在未來幾年內會討論這個問題。設計一棟可能需要30個儲存架的建築,與在同一排中只有一兩個AI架的情況相比。
People are talking about that in the next few years. Designing a building that might take 30 storage racks in a row versus one or two AI racks in that same row.
3:48
設計會非常非常不同。只需從大小的角度考慮。從功率的角度考慮,以及這些如何在整棟建築中分配等等。
Very, very different design. Just think of it in terms of the size. Think of it in terms of the power and how that would be distributed across the building, et cetera.
3:56
網絡需求會是相同的。你對於一個儲存架所需的網絡量非常小,尤其是如果它是硬碟的話,
Networking would be the same. The amount of networking that you would need for a storage rack, tiny, I mean, especially if it's hard drives,
4:04
與AI架相比。因此,如果你試圖讓它完全可互換,你可能會做得太大,過度建設,這在30年內都是可互換的。
compared to an AI rack. So if you're trying to make it fully fungible, you'll probably make it too big and too overbuilt, fungible over certainly a 30-year period.
4:13
一個AI數據中心可能會更加專門化,與硬體共同設計,甚至在冷卻和電力分配等方面。
An AI data center likely is going to be much more purpose-built, co-designed with the hardware, even to the point of cooling and power distribution, et cetera.
4:24
因此會有更多的共同優化。你們向我其中一個投資組合公司Ineffable Intelligence交付了一個大型Verorubin集群,我看到它發送出去的照片。
So a lot more co-optimization. You all delivered a big Verorubin cluster to one of my portfolio companies, Ineffable Intelligence, and I saw the photographs of it as it went out.
4:35
那真是美的事物。確實如此。
That is a thing of beauty. It is. It is.
4:39
我的意思是,這就像看人類歷史上最大的建設項目一樣,你看那個數據中心,哇,那是人類能做到的紀念碑。
I mean, it's one of those things where, you know, similar to looking at the biggest construction projects in human history, you look at that data center, it's like, wow, that is a monument to what mankind can do.
4:49
不,我們拍了一張漂亮的照片。這只是幾個架子,電纜和光纖分配真的很美。
No, we got a nice picture of it. And this is just, you know, a couple of racks, you know, the cabling, the fiber distribution for it is really beautiful.
4:58
我的意思是,美不是由觀者決定的,但對於像我這樣的人,還有可能是你和其他觀眾來說,
I mean, beauty is not the beholder, but for folks like me and probably yourself and others in the audience as well,

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