Jensen Huang: The Doomer Hoax, Superintelligence is Here, and The Future of AI (ft. President Trump)

Some people call it vision. Vision is an awfully big word to me because I believe, first of all, vision matters.

We preempted the weekly show and there's only three people we preempt the show for.

President Trump, Jesus and Jensen. The number one podcast in the world. That's Jensen Wong.

He's the founder, president, CEO of NVIDIA. Whether you know it or not, his decisions are shaping your future.

NVIDIA is the most important stock in this market, and Genesis is arguably the best executive in history.

Revenue exploded 97% year over year. Not only is demand already strong, it's actually accelerating.

NVIDIA is the only computing platform that is a full-stack AI factory.

A GPU is like a time machine because it lets you see the future sooner.

And if we could see the future and we can predict the future, then we have a better chance of making that future the best version of it.

Please welcome Jensen Huang.

Oh, we got a stand to go on the way in. Oh, come on. Stand to go. Stand to go on the way in.

That's our guy. Ladies and gentlemen, GPU Jesus.

They love you. They love you. Thank you. I love you back. Number one podcast in the world. In the world. Wow.

We like the new jacket. Well, you know. You auctioned the old one? I felt you guys needed some energy. Yes.

I know we're talking about serious stuff here, but we need to talk about it with energy. Yes.

Let's start with this essay from this weekend. Which one?

Let's start with Dario's essay. Was Hemingway involved? Actually, did anybody run it through Pangram?

I don't even know how much of it was AI helped, but that was a pretty incredible thing.

And then I think what a lot of people were surprised by was the coalescing of the Frontier Labs around the essay itself.

Just, Jensen, unpack what happened, how you read it, how you interpreted it, and then we'll get into some details that were inside of it.

But maybe just high-level thoughts to kick it off. Well, first of all, there were a lot of stuff in there. Yeah. Yeah.

And and first, there is a there's a part about about safety, which we have to take very seriously.

Safety is paramount, obviously. Safety and leadership are not false.

They're false choices. You're you're able to innovate quickly. You're able to execute quickly.

And America's able to lead and to do it safely. I think those are those are false choices.

But safety is obviously important. There's a matter of internal control that I think he was speaking to.

Obviously, the Coxson whistleblower is a very serious matter. Whenever you have a whistleblower, you have to take it very seriously.

I thought Coxson had great courage to put out what his concerns were.

And even then, there were some issues that were kind of conflated within that. I think the whistleblowing is fine.

I think the scientific prediction about the future is less fine because it's not grounded on science, obviously.

And it was expressed by a scientist, but it was obviously not grounded on science. And so I take issue with that.

But obviously the whistleblower part of it, you know, I think there's just a whole bunch of stuff.

Pausing, pacing, those are all the voluntary things that they could do.

if they feel that their company is out of control. If Coxon saw something, obviously we don't know what Coxon saw,

but if he saw that the company was out of control

and maybe it's a transition from research to engineering.

As you know, these labs are transitioning from research to engineering. Extraordinary talent, extraordinary engineering.

But obviously engineering is different than research. Maybe that transition is clumsy.

we don't know what he saw and ultimately only he knows

but if there was a matter of lack of control that's a different topic

how should the government deal with it now all of a sudden regulation I mean it just covers everything in one blog

can you just help us sort of unpack we tried to play this game actually this week on the pod and it was difficult how do you describe

my mom calls me and she's like what is this whole civilizational death thing I don't know how to explain it to her

So when you have very smart people like that quantize it and quantify it, I think that's probably what's perturbing to some people.

They're like, what does that mean, 10% of extinction? Nobody knows how to explain that to the average person, how that's even possible.

Well, first of all, we shouldn't because it's made up.

First of all, I think that we shouldn't because it's made up.