EXPATS | Nicole Kidman & Writer Alice Bell Sydney Screening Q&A

0:00

你從一開始就參與了這個編劇室。

You have been in the writers room since the very beginning for this.

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你對此充滿熱情，這是一個全女性的編劇室。這令人興奮。

You're passionate about it and it was an all-female writers room. That's exciting. It was.

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這令人興奮，這是個刻意的選擇。

It was exciting and it was a deliberate choice.

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你知道，露露和我，我們讀過很多人，但最終我們知道我們想要的聲音。

You know, Lulu and I, we've read a lot of people, but ultimately we knew the voices that we wanted to have in the writers room.

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我認為，當你組建一個編劇室時，選擇的方式和選擇演員一樣重要。

And I think also when you're putting together a writers room, it's just as important to cast it the same way that you cast it with actors.

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你很容易會選錯人，但也可以選對人。所以非常刻意。他們選錯了。很棒的房間。

You could easily get it wrong and you can also get it right. So very deliberate. They got it wrong. Great room.

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有趣的是，這一半是在Zoom上進行的。我們是一個COVID房間。

And also, interesting fact, half of it was on Zoom, you guys. We were a COVID room. COVID time.

0:40

所以我們有20周的實體會議，然後20周的非實體會議。

So we did 20 weeks in the flesh and then 20 weeks not in the flesh.

0:46

是的，這是它的時代特徵。

Yeah, it's of its time.

0:51

妮可，與你的公司Blossom Films一起，你擔任了這部作品的執行製作人，還主演了它。

Nicole, with your company Blossom Films, your executive produced this as well as starring it. So you're involved with those early stages too.

0:57

你對於擁有一個全女性的編劇室感到興奮嗎？我知道你熱衷於分享女性導演和女性講故事者的作品，這似乎是另一個很好的機會。

Are you excited to have an all-female writer's room? I know you're passionate about sharing the work of female directors and female storytellers, and this seems like another one of those great opportunities.

1:10

是的，還有很棒的講故事，這部作品非常集中於三位女性。

Yeah, and also just great storytelling, and this is very much centred on three women.

1:17

露露加入了我們的團隊，露露·王。她導演了《別告別》。我不知道這裡有人看過嗎，但這是一部精彩的電影。

And Lulu came on board, Lulu Wong. She directed The Farewell. I don't know if anyone here saw that, but it's a wonderful film.

1:23

是的，我看過，我心想，

Yeah, and I saw that and I went,

1:27

這就是那個人

this is the person

1:30

應該來講這個故事的人，因為她會從

that should be telling this story because she'll tell it from,

1:34

我想，

I suppose,

1:36

作為華裔美國人的視角來講述，而且她對幽默和悲傷都有著驚人的洞察力

the viewpoint of being Chinese-American and also she had an incredible insight into the humour as well as the grief

1:48

而我認為女性不是

and I think that female not

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女性，她只是這個工作的合適人選，

female she was just the right person for the job and

1:54

對於這個故事，然後她把

for this story and then she put together the

1:57

艾莉斯和我一直在無導演的情況下合作的

people Alice and I had been working on it without

2:01

人們突然有了露露作為我們兇猛、狂野和瘋狂的領導者

a director and suddenly we had Lulu as our fierce and wild and crazy leader

2:12

而且她也非常堅韌，我認為你能在這個節目中感受到那種精神，因為我們確實感受到了。

and she also is so tenacious and I think you feel that spirit in the show because we did.

2:17

我們在拍攝過程中途遭遇了COVID。

We got hit with COVID halfway through.

2:21

我們在疫情期間仍然去了香港，我們能讓你看到這是在香港拍攝的，因為這樣它變得美麗。

We still went to Hong Kong during COVID and we were able to make you see this is filmed in Hong Kong and it's beautiful because of that.

2:33

是的，你不僅能看到，還能感受到。你能感受到蒸汽，感受到雨。你能感受到那一切。還有另一個角色。

Yeah, you not only see it, you feel it. You feel the steam, you feel the rain. You feel that. There was another character.

2:40

我們變得非常擅長一起出汗。你呢？是的。

We got very good at being sweaty together. Did you? Yeah.

2:45

但這是那個地方和故事的一部分。它成為了一個角色，一個重要的角色。

But that's so much a part of that place and a part of the story. It becomes a character, an important character.

2:53

這是基於一本名為《外籍人士》的暢銷書。我知道你是個多產的讀者，妮可。

It's based on a best-selling book called The Expatriates. And I know you're a prolific reader, Nicole.

2:59

你是怎麼發現這本書的？為什麼想要得到這本書？

How did you come across this book? Why did you want to get your hands on this one?

3:04

因為我們總是在尋找素材，我總是這麼說，所以總是有空間去講述那些尚未被講述的故事，但它們必須是原創的。

Because we're always looking for material, and I always say this, So there's always room for, you know, more stories that haven't been told, but they have to be original.

3:15

而這本書是原創的。我的姐姐在讀這本書，她說，你必須讀這本。我覺得這會是你們公司喜歡做的事情。

And this was original. And my sister was reading the book and she said, you've got to read this. I think this would be something your company would love to do.

3:24

我讀了它，我們選擇了它。然後我們去找了亞馬遜的珍·薩爾基，她剛剛成為整個公司的負責人。

And I read it and we optioned it. and then we went to Jen Sulky at Amazon and she was like, she'd only just come into being the head of the whole,

3:36

我指的是亞馬遜在電影和電視方面的整個業務。她說她當場就買下了它，

I mean, the whole of Amazon in terms of film and television. And she said she bought it on the spot,

3:43

這對她來說是一件不可思議的事情。這意味著她是，

which is an incredible thing for her to have done. It meant that she was,

3:46

她對這個項目的支持始終如一

and she was unwavering in her support

3:49

這個項目艱難漫長而且艱苦，但我認為正因如此，你能在作品中感受到這一點。

of this project, which was tough and long and arduous, yet still is because of that, I think, you feel that in the piece.

4:00

這是一個非常不尋常的電視節目。這裡不是你會去看每集結尾都有懸念的地方。

And it's very unusual television, this. This isn't where you're going to go and see something that's got the cliffhangers at the end of every episode.

4:08

它不是以那種方式寫的。它真的以這種方式寫

It's not written in that way. It's really written in the way that

4:11

就像基耶斯洛夫斯基構建他的電視系列《十誡》，它更具電影感，但故事講述的方式並不是線性的。

Kieslowski constructed, say, his TV, the Decalogue series, and it's far more cinematic, but it's also storytelling that's told not from a linear perspective.

4:23

今晚你將看到第五集，這是非常奇怪的展示。

You're seeing episode five tonight, which is very strange to show.

4:31

所以第五集是你看到的第一件事，但你

So episode five is the first thing you see, but you're

4:34

看到它是因為露露總是把這一集當作獨立電影來推銷，並且是通過愛麗絲的視角來展示的。

seeing it because Lulu always pitched this episode as a standalone film, and it's shown through the lens of Alice.

4:44

移民工人。移民工人。所以，是的，這是一個與系列其他部分非常不同的視角，希望能吸引你。

The migrant workers. The migrant workers. So, yeah, it's a very different perspective than the rest of the series, which hopefully pulls you in.