Too many digital distractions are eroding our ability to read deeply
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你好,欢迎收听《每周对话》。我是来自旧金山的丹·马里诺。我是来自多伦多的尼哈尔·埃尔哈迪。
Hello and welcome to the Conversation Weekly. I am Dan Marino in San Francisco. And I am Nihal Elhadi in Toronto.
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丹,你读很多书吗?是的,我可以这么说。不过,我的阅读量有时会起伏不定。
Dan, do you read a lot? Yeah, I'd say so. I go through ups and downs with my reading consumption, though.
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目前我有点低迷。你一直都读很多书吗?是的,我一直都读。
Currently in a bit of a down phase. Did you always read a lot? Yeah, I did.
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我小时候特别喜欢科幻和奇幻类的书,常常会看那些六本一系列的书,常常熬夜。
And like when I was growing up, I would I was really into like sci fi and fantasy and would just get, you know, those six book series and be up way too late for a nine year old.
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我妈妈不得不下来把书从我手里抢走,因为我总是在被窝里看书。你看,我和你一样,我爱读书。
My mom would have to like come down and steal my book from me because I'd be like under the covers in my room reading. See, I'm like you. I love reading.
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我几乎会读任何我能找到的书。但我也是两个学龄儿童的母亲。
I will read almost anything I can get my hands on. But I'm also the mother of two school-aged children.
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我希望他们能像我一样热爱阅读。
And I would love for them to have the same kind of affinity for reading that I do.
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但他们必须面对很多干扰。是的,我想这对孩子们来说真的很难,对吧?
But they have to contend with so many distractions. Yeah, I got to imagine that's really hard for kids, right?
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因为即使是我,作为一个理论上长大了的成年人,拥有比孩子更好的自控力,
Because even me, as an adult who, in theory, grew up and has better self-control than a child,
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我晚上总是被手机分心。我躺在床上想读书,然后收到朋友的短信,接着有人发给我搞笑视频,突然就到了午夜,我想,哦,天哪,我得上床睡觉。
I get distracted by my phone at night all the time. I'll be lying in bed and want to read, and then I get a text from my friend, and then somebody sends me a funny video, and then all of a sudden it's like midnight, and I'm like, oh, crap, I need to go to bed.
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我想现在的孩子们很难抽出时间来专注。我一直在思考这个问题。
I imagine it's really hard for kids these days to take the time and focus. I've been thinking about it a lot.
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所以这一集是关于数字媒体、设备和屏幕的指数增长,
And so this episode is about the exponential growth of digital media, devices and screens,
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我们周围不断存在的信息,以及对我们注意力的各种需求。
all the information that we have surrounding us constantly, all of these demands in our attention.
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这些对我们阅读和理解能力造成了什么影响?当我们接触数字媒体时,我们的大脑究竟发生了什么?
What have they done to our ability to read and comprehend? What exactly happens in our brains when we engage with digital media?
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我们如何适应这个信息过载的变化环境,在这里我们不断被信息和干扰轰炸?
And how can we adapt to this changing environment of infoglut, where we're bombarded with information and distractions constantly?
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我们将首先具体看看我们的阅读能力以及它是如何随着时间变化的。我是玛丽安·沃尔夫。
We'll start by specifically looking at our ability to read and how it's changed over time. I am Marianne Wolfe.
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我是加州大学洛杉矶分校阅读障碍、不同学习者和社会正义中心的主任。
I'm the director of the Center for Dyslexia, Diverse Learners and Social Justice
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在加州大学洛杉矶分校教育与信息研究学院内。
within the School of Education and Information Studies at UCLA.
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我是一名认知神经科学家和教育工作者,我的使命是赋予全球有文化的人们力量。
I'm a cognitive neuroscientist and educator, and my mission is to empower literate beings around the world.
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玛丽安第一次开始思考阅读的价值是在她志愿参与一个帮助夏威夷资金不足学校的教师项目时。
Marianne first began thinking about the value of reading when she was volunteering in a program for teachers to help in underfunded schools in Hawaii.
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他们把我们送到了夏威夷的乡村,
They sent us to rural Hawaii,
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那里有一些种植园,基本上是在让家庭成为契约工,尤其是来自菲律宾的家庭,还有越南的。
where there were plantations that were basically indenturing families, especially from the Philippines, but from Vietnam.
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在19世纪,夏威夷的经济大部分由强大的美国企业和种植园主控制,他们会引入契约劳工及其家庭,主要来自东亚和东南亚。
Throughout the 19th century, much of Hawaii's economy was controlled by powerful U.S.-based businesses and plantation owners who would bring in indentured laborers and their families, mainly from East and Southeast Asia.
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当美国在1898年正式吞并夏威夷时,招聘外国工人变得非法,但许多来到岛上的工人仍然处于剥削性的劳动合同和贫困中。
When the U.S. officially annexed Hawaii in 1898, the recruitment of foreign workers became illegal, but many of the workers who had come to the islands remained in exploitative labor contracts and poverty.
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我的课堂上几乎有10种语言在使用,大约有22个孩子。
I had almost 10 languages being spoken and about 22 kids in my classroom.
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我从未
And I had never
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处于一种美的境地
been in a situation where the beauty of
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自然掩盖了人们难以置信的贫困
nature obfuscated the unbelievable poverty of people
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谁只有在一个可怕的商店买 groceries 的票或优惠券,我永远不会忘记看到虫子从生菜里爬出来。
who had only tickets or coupons to buy groceries at a terrible store where I will never forget seeing worms come out of the lettuce.
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孩子们的生活只是一种希望,希望他们能学到足够的知识,以免重蹈家族的契约劳役。
And the life of the children was simply a hope that they could learn enough not to repeat the indentured servitude of their family.
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或坐在那里的男人们
or the men who sat in
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这些Quonset小屋里的摇椅上的男人,因为他们从未赚到足够的钱带家人来,尽管种植园许下了所有承诺。
rocking chairs at night alone in these Quonset huts because they had never earned enough money to bring their family, despite all the promises of the plantations.
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这发生在夏威夷,如果在夏威夷是真的,
This was in Hawaii, and if it were true in Hawaii,
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我只能想象在世界各地的国家里有多真实。
I could only imagine how true it was in countries across the world.
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所以玛丽安决定研究识字和阅读对人们生活的影响。
So Marianne decided that she was going to study the impact of literacy and reading on people's lives.
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就在那时我发现了神经科学和语言学。
And that's when I discovered neuroscience and linguistics.
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从那时起,我的目标
And from that point on, my goal
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是要理解如何
was to understand how the
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阅读大脑是如何形成的,以及我们如何将这些知识转化为教导有困难的孩子,贫困中的孩子。
reading brain ever comes to be and how we can translate that knowledge into teaching children who have struggles, children in poverty.
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然后我发现了阅读障碍和
And then I discovered dyslexia and the
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这对无法阅读的孩子在每个层面上造成的影响,因为他们的大脑神经生物学组织。
toll that takes at every level on children who are not able to read because of a neurobiological organization of their brain.
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