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Justice: What's The Right Thing To Do? Episode 01 "THE MORAL SIDE OF MURDER"

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这是一个关于正义的课程,我们从一个故事开始
This is a course about Justice and we begin with a story
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假设你是电车的司机,
suppose you're the driver of a trolley car,
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你的电车以每小时六十英里的速度向前冲
and your trolley car is hurdling down the track at sixty miles an hour
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在轨道的尽头,你注意到五个工人在轨道上工作
and at the end of the track you notice five workers working on the track
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你试图停车,但你无法停车
you tried to stop but you can't
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你的刹车失灵了
your brakes don't work
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你感到绝望,因为你知道
you feel desperate because you know
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如果你撞上这五个工人,
that if you crash into these five workers
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他们都会死
they will all die
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假设你对此深信不疑
let's assume you know that for sure
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所以你感到无助
and so you feel helpless
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直到你注意到右边有
until you notice that there is
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一条侧轨
off to the right
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在那条轨道的尽头
a side track
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在那条轨道的尽头
at the end of that track
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在轨道上工作
there's one worker
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在轨道上工作
working on track
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你的方向盘工作正常
you're steering wheel works
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所以你可以
so you can
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如果你想的话,可以转动电车
turn the trolley car if you want to
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到这条侧轨上
onto this side track
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杀死一个
killing the one
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但饶恕五个。
but sparing the five.
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这是我们的第一个问题
Here's our first question
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正确的做法是什么?
what's the right thing to do?
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你会怎么做?
What would you do?
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我们来做个投票,
Let's take a poll,
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有多少人
how many
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会把电车转向旁轨?
would turn the trolley car onto the side track?
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有多少人不会?
How many wouldn't?
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有多少人会直行
How many would go straight ahead
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举手吧,想要直行的人。
keep your hands up, those of you who'd go straight ahead.
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有少数人会,大多数人会转向
A handful of people would, the vast majority would turn
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我们先听听
let's hear first
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现在我们需要开始调查你们认为
now we need to begin to investigate the reasons why you think
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这是正确的做法。我们先从大多数人开始,他们会转向
it's the right thing to do. Let's begin with those in the majority, who would turn
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去旁轨吗?
to go onto side track?
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你为什么这么做,
Why would you do it,
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你的理由是什么?
what would be your reason?
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谁愿意自愿说出理由?
Who's willing to volunteer a reason?
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请说,站起来。
Go ahead, stand up.
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因为杀五个人不对,而你可以只杀一个人。
Because it can't be right to kill five people when you can only kill one person instead.
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杀五个人不对,
it wouldn't be right to kill five
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如果你可以只杀一个人,那是个好理由
if you could kill one person instead
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那是个好理由
that's a good reason
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这是个好理由
that's a good reason
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还有谁?
who else?
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大家都同意吗
does everybody agree with that
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原因?请继续。
reason? go ahead.
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我认为这是它被播放的同样原因。
Well I was thinking it was the same reason it was on
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在911事件中,我们把那些驾驶飞机的人视为
9/11 we regard the people who flew the plane
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把飞机撞向的英雄。
who flew the plane into the
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宾夕法尼亚的田野作为英雄
Pennsylvania field as heroes
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而不是杀死更多的人。
because they chose to kill the people on the plane
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而不是杀死更多人
and not kill more people
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在大楼里。
in big buildings.
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所以原则在911事件中是相同的
So the principle there was the same on 9/11
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这是悲惨的情况,
it's tragic circumstance,
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但杀死一个人以让五个人活下来更好
but better to kill one so that five can live
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这就是你们大多数人有的理由,那些想要转变的人,是吗?
is that the reason most of you have, those of you who would turn, yes?
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现在让我们听听
Let's hear now
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来自
from
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少数派
those in the minority
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那些不会转变的人。
those who wouldn't turn.
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我认为那种为种族灭绝和极权主义辩护的心态
Well I think that same type of mentality that justifies genocide and totalitarianism
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为了拯救一种种族而消灭另一种。
in order to save one type of race you wipe out the other.
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那么在这种情况下你会怎么做?你会
so what would you do in this case? You would
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避免
to avoid
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种族灭绝的恐怖
the horrors of genocide
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你会撞上那五个人并杀了他们吗?
you would crash into the five and kill them?
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大概是的。
Presumably yes.
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好吧,还有谁?
okay who else?
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这是一个勇敢的回答,谢谢。
That's a brave answer, thank you.
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我们再考虑一个
Let's consider another
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电车案例
trolley car case
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并看看
and see
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是否
whether
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你们中的大多数人
those of you in the majority
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想要遵循这个原则,
want to adhere to the principle,
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宁愿一个人死以让五个人活。
better that one should die so that five should live.
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这次你不是电车的司机,你是旁观者
This time you're not the driver of the trolley car, you're an onlooker
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站在一座桥上俯瞰电车轨道
standing on a bridge overlooking a trolley car track
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电车沿着轨道驶来
and down the track comes a trolley car
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轨道尽头有五个工人
at the end of the track are five workers
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刹车失灵
the brakes don't work
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电车即将冲向这五个人并杀死他们
the trolley car is about to careen into the five and kill them
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而现在
and now
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你不是司机
you're not the driver
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你真的感到无助
you really feel helpless

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